Austria promises to be an interesting race. For one, it's nice to return to an old track especially as there were a number of entertaining races at the old A1 ring. Unfortunately the event is still heavily linked with the Ferrari team order debacle in 2002. The debate was even more intense as Schumacher, with four wins out of five, was already in a commanding position in the championship. The decision was made by Todt which had wide ranging repercussions including a ban of team orders for eight years. Schumacher was so embarrassed by the situation that he gifted Barrichello a win at Indianapolis later in the year.
Despite this I'm looking forward to the race, safe in the knowledge that Mercedes won't give similar team orders. I feel like the Red Bull Ring will offer up another tense battle in the race for the championship.
For those of who you never watched/don't remember, here is a video of the pole lap from the last race here in 2003. It's a fairly high speed circuit with plenty of aggressive corners, really showing off the power/noise and downforce performance of the early 2000 cars.
Due to my slowness in posting the results thread (apologies, things will get back to normal now that I've returned from holiday - see link for results thread), I should congratulate Keba, Dragan and Joe for their places on the podium.
Canada was a great race and Ricciardo's victory was very popular throughout the paddock. Red Bull were ultimately strong but were pushed hard by both Williams and the Force India cars. Hopefully we'll see similar battles this weekend throughout the field. Also will we see Rosberg win a third race in a row?
Just to confirm Mercedes are still banned (Hamilton and Rosberg still eligible). However the increasing dominance of Mercedes and Red Bull has led me towards a unique idea for random.
Here is the current championship standings:
Thanks to Michael for his help in creating this random.
This time the random is similar to the usual qualifying, race and constructors picks. However for each you must make two picks (in addition to your usual picks). Given the dominance of the Mercedes and Red Bull packages Hamilton, Rosberg, Mercedes, Ricciardo, Vettel and Red Bull are all banned.
So you must choose two drivers for qualifying and two drivers for race. These can be repeated between category e.g. you could choose Hulkenberg in both qualifying and race. The driver you feel has the best chance of winning without Mercedes and Red Bull should be placed first as this will affect the amount of points you score. The same is true for the two constructors picks you make. See the scoring table below.
The player with the highest overall point score will win the random.
Tie-break
Of the four drivers who have raced at the Spielberg track in F1 - Raikkonen, Button, Alonso and Massa - which driver will gain the most positions from their starting position? How many places? If a tie still exists after this, time of posting will be the decider.
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Feel free to post picks in the following format:
Qualifying:
Race:
Constructors: [Not Mercedes as they are banned]
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 -
Driver 2 -
Race
Driver 1 -
Driver 2 -
Constructors
Team 1 -
Team 2 -
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Raikkonen/Button/Alonso/Massa
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Last time the race was held in Austria Ferrari and McLaren were both in the running for the World Championship (along with Williams). F1 has changed significantly since then with the emergence of Red Bull and the Mercedes team (obviously both were in F1 under different names, Jaguar and BAR respectively).
Both Ferrari and McLaren have stated their commitment to bringing new parts to the car in Austria. Will this be enough to see them challenge for an unlikely podium?
As always picks are due before Free Practice 1 (Friday 20th June 09:00 GMT). See you soon!
Despite this I'm looking forward to the race, safe in the knowledge that Mercedes won't give similar team orders. I feel like the Red Bull Ring will offer up another tense battle in the race for the championship.
For those of who you never watched/don't remember, here is a video of the pole lap from the last race here in 2003. It's a fairly high speed circuit with plenty of aggressive corners, really showing off the power/noise and downforce performance of the early 2000 cars.
Due to my slowness in posting the results thread (apologies, things will get back to normal now that I've returned from holiday - see link for results thread), I should congratulate Keba, Dragan and Joe for their places on the podium.
Canada was a great race and Ricciardo's victory was very popular throughout the paddock. Red Bull were ultimately strong but were pushed hard by both Williams and the Force India cars. Hopefully we'll see similar battles this weekend throughout the field. Also will we see Rosberg win a third race in a row?
Just to confirm Mercedes are still banned (Hamilton and Rosberg still eligible). However the increasing dominance of Mercedes and Red Bull has led me towards a unique idea for random.
Here is the current championship standings:
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Random
Thanks to Michael for his help in creating this random.
This time the random is similar to the usual qualifying, race and constructors picks. However for each you must make two picks (in addition to your usual picks). Given the dominance of the Mercedes and Red Bull packages Hamilton, Rosberg, Mercedes, Ricciardo, Vettel and Red Bull are all banned.
So you must choose two drivers for qualifying and two drivers for race. These can be repeated between category e.g. you could choose Hulkenberg in both qualifying and race. The driver you feel has the best chance of winning without Mercedes and Red Bull should be placed first as this will affect the amount of points you score. The same is true for the two constructors picks you make. See the scoring table below.
The player with the highest overall point score will win the random.
Tie-break
Of the four drivers who have raced at the Spielberg track in F1 - Raikkonen, Button, Alonso and Massa - which driver will gain the most positions from their starting position? How many places? If a tie still exists after this, time of posting will be the decider.
Template
Feel free to post picks in the following format:
Qualifying:
Race:
Constructors: [Not Mercedes as they are banned]
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 -
Driver 2 -
Race
Driver 1 -
Driver 2 -
Constructors
Team 1 -
Team 2 -
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Raikkonen/Button/Alonso/Massa
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Both Ferrari and McLaren have stated their commitment to bringing new parts to the car in Austria. Will this be enough to see them challenge for an unlikely podium?
As always picks are due before Free Practice 1 (Friday 20th June 09:00 GMT). See you soon!
Qualifying: Ricciardo
ReplyDeleteRace: Ricciardo
Constructors: RBR
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Hulkenberg
Race
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Hulkenberg
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Massa 2
I'm on pole again!
Qualifying: Vettel
ReplyDeleteRace: Ricciardo
Constructors: Red Bull Racing
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Button
Race
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Hulkenberg
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Mclaren
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Alonso 3
Damn! I was away for Canada & couldn't post. Really sorry Chris...let's push on from this and get a 1-2!
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Hamilton
Race: Hamilton
Constructors: Red Bull Racing
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Massa
Driver 2 - Alonso
Race
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Bottas
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Button 4
Qualifying: Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace: Hamilton
Constructors: RB
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Massa
Driver 2 - Bottas
Race
Driver 1 - Massa
Driver 2 - Alonso
Constructors
Team 1 - Williams
Team 2 - Ferrari
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Raikkonen 2
Qualifying: Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace: Rosberg
Constructors: RBR
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Bottas
Driver 2 - Raikkonen
Race
Driver 1 - Hulkenberg
Driver 2 - Alonso
Constructors
Team 1 - Force India
Team 2 - Ferrari
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Alonso 2
Qualifying: Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace: Hamilton
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Qualifying Driver 1 - Alonso
Qualifying Driver 2 - Bottas
Race Driver 1 - Alonso
Race Driver 2 - Massa
Constructors Team 1 - Ferrari
Constructors Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Raikkonen, 3
Qualifying: Rosberg
ReplyDeleteRace: Rosberg
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Qualifying Driver 1 - Hulkenberg
Qualifying Driver 2 - Raikkonen
Race Driver 1 - Hulkenberg
Race Driver 2 - Alonso
Constructors Team 1 - Ferrari
Constructors Team 2 - Force India
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Massa 1
Qualifying:Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace:Hamilton
Constructors: RBR
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 -Bottas
Driver 2 -Alonso
Race
Driver 1 -Bottas
Driver 2 -Alonso
Constructors
Team 1 -Williams
Team 2 -Ferrari
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Alonso 1
Qualifying: Lew
ReplyDeleteRace: Lew
Constructors: RB
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Bottas
Driver 2 - Massa
Race
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Bottas
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Button 3
Qualifying: Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace: Hamilton
Constructors: Red Bull Racing
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 - Massa
Driver 2 - Alonso
Race
Driver 1 - Alonso
Driver 2 - Hülkenberg
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Button 3
My picks for Austria
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Lewis Hamilton
Race: Lewis Hamilton
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 –Fernando Alonso
Driver 2 –Valtteri Bottas
Race
Driver 1 –Fernando Alonso
Driver 2 –Felipe Massa
Constructors
Team 1 -Ferrari
Team 2 -Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Jenson Button 2
Qualifying: Lewis Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace: Rosberg
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 –Fernando Alonso
Driver 2 –Valtteri Bottas
Race
Driver 1 –Fernando Alonso
Driver 2 –Felipe Massa
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Fernando Alonso - 2
Qualifying: Lewis Hamilton
ReplyDeleteRace: Lewis Hamilton
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 – Fernando Alonso
Driver 2 – Felipe Massa
Race
Driver 1 – Fernando Alonso
Driver 2 – Nico Hulkenberg
Constructors
Team 1 - Ferrari
Team 2 - Williams
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Jenson Button 2
Aled Lewis' picks:
ReplyDeleteQualifying: ROS
Race: ROS
Constructors: FI
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 – Bottas
Driver 2 – Massa
Race
Driver 1 – Hulkenberg
Driver 2 – Alonso
Constructors
Team 1 - Force India
Team 2 - Ferrari
Driver to gain most places and quantity: Fernando Alonso - 3
Qualifying: HAM
ReplyDeleteRace: HAM
Constructors: RBR
Random:
Qualifying
Driver 1 – ALO
Driver 2 – BOT
Race
Driver 1 – ALO
Driver 2 – MAS
Constructors
Team 1 - FER
Team 2 - WIL
Driver to gain most places and quantity: BUT 3
Picking quite late again! Go Go Lotus.
DeleteRajaram returns:
ReplyDeleteQualifying : Hamilton
Race : Hamilton
Constructors : Red Bull
Random :
Qualifying
Driver 1 – Bottas
Driver 2 – Massa
Race
Driver 1 – Hulkenberg
Driver 2 – Alonso
Constructors :
Team 1 – Force India
Team2 – Ferrari
Driver to gain most places and quantity : Raikkonen 3