Sorry for the delay (I've been travelling on business), thanks to Nat for his contribution to this thread.
Welcome to the US of A for the 17th Grand Prix of a terrific 2014 season. With the title fight going down to the wire and Nico Rosberg desperately needing a win to grab the momentum back off the hard-charging Lewis Hamilton, this weekend could be huge – like everything else in the USA, particularly their burgers.
Less huge will be the Formula One grid this weekend, with
both the financially troubled minnows of the sport, Marussia and Caterham,
missing the Grand Prix. The news about Marussia was something of a surprise,
although Caterham’s cash problems (and ownership issues) have been
well-documented in recent months, including an astonishing story that all
kinds of key equipment (simulators, development parts and so forth) was to
be auctioned off. It prompted this
amusing article on the satirical site Sniff Petrol suggesting that Kamui
Kobayashi may be the next to be auctioned off.
It will be a shame to see just 18 cars on the grid this
weekend – the lowest since 2005 – and the latest development in what has been a
tough month for the sport with Bianchi’s accident in Japan. Bianchi is now a in
stable condition, but there’s still a long way to go – our thoughts and wishes
are with him.
On the Prediction League front last weekend proved fairly
dramatic, with changes at the top of both the Constructors and main Prediction League following Red Bull’s disastrous performance around the Sochi
Autodrom. There’s still plenty to play for with both titles remaining closely
fought, as they have done all season, and people fighting to retain their seat
– or grab a nice shiny new one. Marussia's plunge into administration has huge implications for the PL but Ross Brawn (Team Principal) has convinced Bernie to support him for three more races, before he goes fishing again. Who will come out on top this weekend?
The current championship standings are:
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Random
Thanks to everyone who has helped so far on random this year - please feel free to post suggestions here for other races.
Back in the fight
A win for Hamilton this weekend means that, barring
retirements (oooh errr), Rosberg could win the final two weekends and it still
wouldn’t be enough to take the title from the Brit. Hamilton has never been
outqualified or outraced by a teammate here in Austin, giving Rosberg a
trouncing last year. How well will he fight back this weekend?
How many sessions will Rosberg beat Hamilton in this weekend
(FP1, FP2, FP3, Q, R)?
Correct 3 pts1-2 away 2 pts
3-4 away 1 pt
Pick a combination of statements from the following (note that all statements you choose have to be correct in order to gain points):
Hamilton to beat Rosberg in two of the three practice sessions 1 pt
Hamilton to beat Rosberg in every free practice session 2 pts
Rosberg to beat Hamilton in two of the three practice sessions 2 pts
Rosberg to beat Hamilton in every free practice session 4 pts
Hamilton will outqualify Rosberg 1 pt
Hamilton will outqualify Rosberg by at least 0.2s 2pts
Rosberg will outqualify Hamilton 3 pts
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Rosberg will beat Hamilton in the race 3pts
(In the event of a race retirement that is clearly not the fault of the driver, statements will be taken to be correct at time of retirement as long as at least half laps have been completed e.g. if Hamilton is ahead of Rosberg by over 8 seconds and Hamilton retires on lap 40 then the statement that Hamilton will beat Rosberg by 5+ seconds in the race will be deemed correct. If the driver takes themselves out of the race/qualifying then they will be deemed to have been beaten by their teammate by the maximum margin. A retirement issue in qualifying will not invalidate race result and vice versa. Bit convoluted but hopefully you trust our judgement!)
Super Sebastian
This time last year Vettel was heading into the Austin Grand
Prix about to win his 8th consecutive race. This year he finds
himself starting from the pitlane, over 50 points down on his teammate and
daydreaming about driving a red car.
What can he salvage from this weekend? We’re going to have some fun guessing how far he can charge through the depleted field. Pick two statements from the following (points if correct in brackets)
Super Seb will beat both Lotus and Sauber cars (1)What can he salvage from this weekend? We’re going to have some fun guessing how far he can charge through the depleted field. Pick two statements from the following (points if correct in brackets)
Super Seb will beat both Toro Rossos (2)
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
Super Seb will beat at least one McLaren and at least one Ferrari (4)
Super Seb will beat a Williams on merit i.e. not because of the Williams’ problems (5)
(Retirement rules are as follows: If Vettel retires in the first half of the reason no points awarded. If he retires in the second half then half points are awarded for the statements correct at the time of retirement. Retirements for the other cars mean Seb 'beats' them (except for the Williams pick) unless Seb is behind them with over 75% race distance complete.)
How many positions will Seb finish behind Dan in the race?
0-1 away from being correct (5)2-3 away (4)
4-5 away (3)
6-7 away (2)
8-9 away (1)
Bringing up the rear
Who will qualify last?
Maldonado 1 ptGrosjean 2 pts
Sutil 2 pts
Gutierrez 3 pts
Any other 5 pts
(Note that it has to be a classified time, not taking part in qualifying does not count towards this)
Who will finish last in the race? (the lowest driver not to retire)
Maldonado 1 ptGrosjean 2 pts
Sutil 2 pts
Gutierrez 2 pts
Other 3 pts
How many seconds will the highest finishing Lotus or Sauber
finish behind the next car? (This will also act as a tie-break, closest guess first).
0-5 seconds away 3 pts5-15 seconds away 2 pts
15-25 1 pt
(if there’s a safety car in the last 10 laps then it will be the time gap taken on the final lap before the safety car came out)
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Hamilton, Rosberg and Mercedes banned.
Feel free to post picks in the following format:
Qualifying:
Race:
Constructors:
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) X/5 sessions
2) [list out all statements thought to be true]
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) [Pick two statements]
2) X number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) X will qualify last
2) X will finish the race last
3) X seconds (also a TB)
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As always picks are due before Free Practice 1 which is 1600 GMT/1000 Local time.
Qualifying: Ricciardo
ReplyDeleteRace: Ricciardo
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 3/5 sessions
2) Rosberg will outqualify Hamilton 3 pts
Rosberg to beat Hamilton in two of the three practice sessions 2 pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat at least one McLaren and at least one Ferrari (4)
Super Seb will beat a Williams on merit i.e. not because of the Williams’ problems (5)
2) 3 number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Gutierrez will qualify last
2) Gutierrez will finish the race last
3) 18 seconds (also a TB)
Qualifying: McLaren
ReplyDeleteRace: Button
Constructors: McLaren
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 1/5 sessions
2) Hamilton will outqualify Rosberg 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Lotus and Sauber cars (1)
Super Seb will beat both Toro Rossos (2)
2) 8 number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Maldonado will qualify last
2) Giutierrez will finish the race last
3) 45 seconds
I actually don't think Seb will finish at all so the Super Seb part is hard.
Hey Brian, just spotted you put Mclaren down for qualifying! Guessing you meant Button? Or Bruce Mclaren... ;-)
DeleteQualifying: Ricciardo
ReplyDeleteRace: Bottas
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 0/5 sessions
2) Hamilton will outqualify Rosberg 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Lotus and Sauber cars (1)
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
2) 7 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Sutil will qualify last
2) Sutil will finish the race last
3) 33 seconds
Qualifying: Bottas
ReplyDeleteRace: Alonso
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 2/5 sessions
2) Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat at least one McLaren and at least one Ferrari (4)
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
2) 3 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Perez will qualify last
2) Grosjean will finish the race last
3) 1 second
Qualifying: Ricciardo
ReplyDeleteRace: Ricciardo
Constructors: RedBull Racing
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 3/5 sessions
2) Rosberg to beat Hamilton in two of the three practice sessions 2 pts
Rosberg will beat Hamilton in the race 3pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
Super Seb will beat at least one McLaren and at least one Ferrari (4)
2) 3 number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Sutil will qualify last
2) Gutierrez will finish the race last
3) 4 seconds (also a TB)
Qualifying: Bottas
ReplyDeleteRace: Ricciardo
Constructors: Red Bull
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 3/5 sessions
2a) Rosberg will outqualify Hamilton 3 pts
2b) Rosberg will beat Hamilton in the race 3pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1a) Super Seb will beat both Force Indias
1b) Super Seb will beat at least one McLaren and at least one Ferrari
2) 2 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Maldonado will qualify last
2) Gutierrez will finish the race last
3) 5-15 seconds (also a TB – 11.3)
Also, I object to being forced to refer to Seb as "super".
DeleteYou've earned the right not to use it! You were the only one in the league to predict Ricciardo to beat Vettel this year. I backed him after China but hardly as great as your initial call!
DeleteAled Lewis' picks:
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Bottas
Race: Button
Constructors: McLaren
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 4/5 sessions
2) Rosberg will beat Hamilton in the race 3pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
Super Seb will beat both Toro Rosso (2)
2) 6 number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Sutil will qualify last
2) Sutil will finish the race last
3) 5.6 seconds (also a TB)
My picks although I feel it will be hard to make decisive differences vs Scott are
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Valterri Bottas
Race: Daniel Ricciardo
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 2/5 sessions
2) Hamilton to beat Rosberg in two of the three practice sessions
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Torro Rossos
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias
2) 5 number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Pastor Maldonado will qualify last
2) Pastor Maldonado will finish the race last
3) 8.850 seconds (also a TB)
Qualifying: Bottas
ReplyDeleteRace: Bottas
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 1/5 sessions
2)
Hamilton to beat Rosberg in two of the three practice sessions 1 pt
Hamilton will outqualify Rosberg by at least 0.2s 2pts
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1)
Super Seb will beat both Toro Rossos (2)
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
2) 6 number of places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Gutierrez will qualify last
2) Maldonado will finish the race last
3) 27.8 seconds (also a TB)
I declared all of my picks earlier today to Michael (except one Super Seb pick as I was undecided). Generally it's important for the championship leader to post first in the last three or so rounds to eliminate any suspicion of block picking etc.
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Valtteri Bottas
Race: Valtteri Bottas
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 1/5 session
2) Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
Hamilton to beat Rosberg in two of the three practice sessions 1 pt
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Lotus and Sauber cars (1)
Super Seb will beat both Toro Rossos (2)
2) 4 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Maldonado will qualify last
2) Maldonado will finish the race last
3) 27 seconds (also a TB)
Win or bust in both championships!!! Fingers crossed Dragan
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Ricciardo
Race: Ricciardo
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 3/5 sessions
2) Rosberg will outqualify Hamilton 3 pts
Rosberg to beat Hamilton in two of the three practice sessions 2 pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1)
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias (3)
Super Seb will beat at least one McLaren and at least one Ferrari (4)
2) 7 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Gutierrez will qualify last
2) Gutierrez will finish the race last
3) 34.231 seconds (also a TB)
Just a quick point to all (I wasn't really thinking yesterday). Stacking statements in the Hamilton/Rosberg category doesn't give you any additional points. For example, I picked:
ReplyDeleteHamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
I can only score a maximum of 2 points in this case for these two statements (if Hamilton beats Rosberg by over 5+ seconds then I score 2 points, if he doesn't then I score 0 points for the entire category). As Hamilton beating Rosberg is part of the other statement it's unfair to all to give additional points.
Apologies one final clarification - after speaking to Nat (who created the random) stacking counts. For anyone who picked the extreme versions (e.g. Hamilton to outqualify Rosberg by 0.2 seconds) they will receive points for the less extreme version (e.g. Hamilton to outqualify Rosberg) too. So 3 points are on offer for correctly predicting the qualifying over 0.2 seconds.
DeleteI can confirm as championship leader Scott declared his picks first to me and from past championship battles does not block pick. My comment with regards to making decisive differences is that I know how hard it is to beat Scott over a season, in most cases it is a single pick over a season.
ReplyDeleteQualifying: Bottas
ReplyDeleteRace: Bottas
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 3/5 sessions
2) Hamilton to beat Rosberg in two of the three practice sessions 1 pt
Rosberg will outqualify Hamilton 3 pts
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race by 5+ seconds 2pts
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Lotus and Sauber cars
Super Seb will beat both Toro Rossos
2) 2 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Maldonado will qualify last
2) Gutierrez will finish the race last
3) 14.245 seconds (also a TB)
Qualifying: Bottas
ReplyDeleteRace: Bottas
Constructors: Williams
Random:
Hamilton/Rosberg (Back in the fight)
1) 1/5 sessions
2) Hamilton to beat Rosberg in two of the three practice sessions 1 pt
Hamilton will outqualify Rosberg 1 pt
Hamilton will beat Rosberg in the race 1 pt
Vettel (Super Sebastian)
1) Super Seb will beat both Toro Rossos
Super Seb will beat both Force Indias
2) 4 places behind Dan
Bringing up the rear
1) Maldonado will qualify last
2) Maldonado will finish the race last
3) 15 seconds (also a TB)
Fuck.I forgot to post....I'm such an idiot , sorry Sangan.I work tomorrow but usually I never work saturdays so I was thinking it was thursday.I dont think we have any chance winning the title after this,my picks was very poor in the second part of the championship , sorry man......but at least you still have a good chance for P1.
ReplyDeleteNo worries Dragan! You are an excellent TM. Still two more races left to win this thing!
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